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supercharged 2004 MG TF 160

Discussion in 'Say Hello & introduce yourself' started by Alcan, 11 September 2013.

  1. Alcan

    Alcan New member

    Messages:
    6
    From:
    Australia NSW
    Car:
    2004 MG TF 160
    Hi everyone My name is Allan but I'm called Alcan I have rebuilt my mgtf160 engine, while I was waiting on parts from uk I decided to machine up a manifold and fit a supercharger which can be turned on and off.This system runs on 4 lb boost via a motorized shut off valve witch open and shuts when the supercharger is activated. I am a precision machinist and everything is working great , I need someone to help me in the fuel injection as I require more fuel to feed the engine. If there is any MG TF enthusiasts out there that can help it would be appreciated.Regards
     
  2. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    20,369
    From:
    London, UK
    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    Greetings and a Warm Welcome to our TorqueCars Forum my Friend! :)

    I am unable to help you with your question directly, but hopefully somebody can point you in the right direction for the knowledge that you seek!

    Good luck buddy! :)
     
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  3. Alcan

    Alcan New member

    Messages:
    6
    From:
    Australia NSW
    Car:
    2004 MG TF 160
    Thanks for the mail, I'll keep checking to see if anyone has got some ideas. In the meantime I'll get some photos posted to show how things are set up.
     
  4. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    20,369
    From:
    London, UK
    Car:
    Saab 9-3SS T9
    Once you have made 10 posts then the system will allow you to post those photos.
     
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  5. claymore

    claymore The Torque Meister

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    1,888
    From:
    Shrewsbury
    Car:
    T-10k,
    It only 4 psi I would have thought the standard ecu would be able to compensate, I used to run 6psi on my fiat with no issues at all.
     
  6. HugoBoss

    HugoBoss The Torque Meister

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    1,488
    From:
    Australia NSW
    Car:
    r33 skyline gtst
    Welcome to T.C matey...
     
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  7. MattsCar

    MattsCar Tuner

    Messages:
    67
    From:
    UK, Shaftesbury
    Car:
    96,2.0 Renault Clio
    what injectors are you running?

    standard ecu?

    just because 1 ecu can cope doesn't mean they all do, positive boost pressure is massive compared to 0 positive.

    going to need a remap for sure!

    standalone is what id recommend, DTA, Omex, Canems, Adaptronic, Syvecs, AEM, MBE, Megajolt, Megasquirt, Emerald, Link off the top of my head lol

    i run omex personally. not for my preference but for the guy who is mapping my car. :)
     
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  8. Country Bumpkin

    Country Bumpkin Track Warrior

    Messages:
    735
    From:
    Norfolk
    Car:
    GTO T.T.
    Start at the back, what does your fuel pump produce in litres per minute ? This is normally the first link in the chain when more fuel is required, not always but in general.
    After market fuel pumps generally require direct battery voltage to get the benefits from them. This is because lots of manufacturers install a low level regulator which limits voltage to 9v and the after market pumps like a Walbro need 12v to operate properly.
    Then there's a fuel pressure regulator, stock items don't like the newly acquired pressure and can become unstable.
    Injectors, sizing & pressure. I have unfortunately lost the link I had for working out your requirements, I'm sure I even put it on here some time back, I'll have a look and see if I can find it. [I'll have a look when time permits]
    Control, as Matt has suggested, a stand alone is without doubt a superb item but you can successfully get the control you need from a patch in item such as a MAP2 ECU,[a newer item may be available by now] these allow full fuel control and timing adjustment and the removal of the stock MAF.
    You will need to put the car on a rolling road whatever you add but you can do a lot of the basic mapping from a laptop to get you up and running.
    I'm sure there's stuff I've missed, my reply is rather brief as my time is short today.
     
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  9. Country Bumpkin

    Country Bumpkin Track Warrior

    Messages:
    735
    From:
    Norfolk
    Car:
    GTO T.T.
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  10. Alcan

    Alcan New member

    Messages:
    6
    From:
    Australia NSW
    Car:
    2004 MG TF 160
    Sorry I couldn't get back sooner as I hit a AUS great big furry rock [wombat] with my wifes 2011 mazda 6 sports going home from work. none the less! I have just purchased a walbro pump that produces 110 L/min @ 3bar, I also have injectors [0280156079] that run at 248cc @ 12ohm @ 3bar which I thought would not hurt the standard 160 engine. I will sit down and use your suggestion on the info that you gave and never know. there are no one as yet in AUS that can remap my ecu, as not many MG's here like UK. I really appreciate your time that you have given me at this stage as I haven't found anything with this info. Also I do have a 3bar map sensor I can put in to try?? as t he original one would only read neg press. does this sound like I'm on the right track.
    Regards Alcan
     
  11. Alcan

    Alcan New member

    Messages:
    6
    From:
    Australia NSW
    Car:
    2004 MG TF 160
    The injectors I'm running are the standard type 0280156024 which produce 200cc @ 14.5 ohm I do have 0280156079 which I put in and the ecu would not let me play, shut the engine down at 4500 rpm so I put the standard ones back in and goes like a rocket until I switch the blower on. I do have a 3bar map sensor that I could put in because the Original one would only send a neg. pressure. I have not found anyone in Aus. to help or remap the ecu
     
  12. Country Bumpkin

    Country Bumpkin Track Warrior

    Messages:
    735
    From:
    Norfolk
    Car:
    GTO T.T.
    Hi, I've been away for a few days and I'm away again early in the morning. When I get back, I'll take some time out to see if I can find ways to help you achieve your goal and see if I know anyone around your area who is more connected with tuning in Oz.
     
  13. TCJBOLDIE

    TCJBOLDIE Torque King

    Messages:
    4,835
    From:
    Brisbane
    Car:
    JB Starion
    Seeing you live in OZ may I suggest you at first have the car dynoed to find out exactly what the fuel maps are,plus the injector duty cycle which should be no more than 80-85%.
    As mentioned previously have the fuel pump flow tested to see if it is up to the job BUT also change all fuel filters including the in tank pick up filter/sock and any external pre pump filters usually between the tank and body if any as they are often forgotten.
    Suggest you look at a Haltec P100 computer and moire importantly find out what EMS your tuner prefers to work with.
     

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