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Uprating is modding?

Discussion in 'Insurance and Legal' started by HuntingTarg, 21 February 2016.

  1. HuntingTarg

    HuntingTarg Tuner

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  2. HDi fun

    HDi fun TC ModFather

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    Federal law and state law are the things you need to consider
     
  3. Ronbros

    Ronbros Torque Junkie

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    laws dont make a safer car, when most mods are performed!

    but most mods do make the car safer!


    do what your told and be quiet.
     
  4. Yugguy

    Yugguy Torque King

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    I take modding to mean any change to factory spec. So it covers everything from an uprated clutch or brakes to a huge wing or vinyl wrap.
     
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  5. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    OEM brakes or OEM anything are the same dimensions as the factory and usually have the same characteristics.

    Anything outside of the standard is perceived as a modification.

    Let's take brake pads as an example though as this is quite a common situation.

    There is a grey area when you fit OEM spec parts of higher performance, for example brake pads. Some of these are classed as a replacement, some would be upgrades and some would be modifications.

    I specify modification and upgrade differently. Upgrade to higher friction pads and it all works better, modify by using race spec pads and the working temp of the pads are now much higher so it would perform worse when cold or on the road.
     
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  6. HuntingTarg

    HuntingTarg Tuner

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    Ah. I suppose that would make the difference.
    I think there is also a difference between 'exceeding' and 'deviating' from OEM. Exceeding can be safe or unsafe (depending on the system and particular spec), but going outside a set of parameters is an At Your Own Risk proposition.

    I will assume that is facetious humor.
     
  7. Ronbros

    Ronbros Torque Junkie

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    OK , just suppose that you drive without a license, after you do get a get a paper license ,does the paper say you are now a better driver?

    i love the word facetious,(yup, guilty of assumption).
     
  8. HuntingTarg

    HuntingTarg Tuner

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    Okay; say I build and launch a real (backyard-scale) rocket, then I go get an degree in aerospace engineering, then I help build a fly-into-space rocket. Where do I become a 'Rocket Scientist'?
     
  9. obi_waynne

    obi_waynne Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    A rocket scientist is someone one who has knowledge of rockets!
     
  10. HuntingTarg

    HuntingTarg Tuner

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    By the same token, a driver is someone who has (practical) knowledge of driving. It's a spectrum, not a yes/no. The paper is just a legal yardstick to set standards on who can lawfully drive.
     

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