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At Last!. I have started on my car ;-) PART 2

Discussion in 'General car Chat' started by pgarner, 18 February 2009.

  1. T9 man

    T9 man TC Pro Founder Moderator

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    Very very nice OG, BUT!!! Considering the huge power of your baby and the wafer like weight of the car concerned; I have yet to see any pictures posted up from you of the parachute set up and the back up ships anchor! :blink: This is very unlike you OG! Sort yourself out buddy! :lol:
     
  2. old-git

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  3. T9 man

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    [​IMG] I love your sense of humour OG :bigsmile:
     
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  5. old-git

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    Another mod

    Just got rear bottom wishbones back from having one rubber bush replaced with a rod end (rose joint), allowing toe in/out to be adjusted (there will be, obviously, a lock nut fitted to the rod end). The top wishbone has a pair of rod ends so that camber is also adjustable.


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  6. old-git

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    More lightening.

    CV joints are secured by 6 bolts. As the bolts are working in shear only, 3 can be cut back on each CV to form studs. This has resulted in a rotational mass saving of 350gms. I also removed some unnecessary material from the spacer that allows me to use equal length driveshafts (hence the longer bolts), saving 80gms.

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  7. Loz

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    Love your attention to detail Og, all those shaved grams add up quickly don't they!
     
  8. old-git

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    Yes, they do, especially rotational and unsprung (half of them) weight. I may have to replace the studs with bolts for the MOT, though :)
     
  9. Loz

    Loz Torque King

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    Any joy with the adhesive yet?
     
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  10. old-git

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    I think so. Spoke to Dave at Trident Racing Supplies. They sell Teroson PU panel bonder and I have bought a tube to try out.
     
  11. T9 man

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    +1 :amuse:
     
  12. old-git

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  13. T9 man

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    I too would be interested in hearing Lutonmatt's opinion on this!
     
  14. old-git

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    Finished fuel system mounting plate, apart from some sort of protective sleeve around the shart edge.

    The masking tape is to stop any glue that seeps through from bonding brackets to the plate.

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  15. old-git

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    As they say, sometimes one thing can lead to another.

    I decided, with regard to my weight reducing obsession, to replace existing cast iron rear whell bearing carriers with lighweight aluminium ones. However, as no one appears to make them with lugs to attach a caliper, a separate mounting bracket is also required. Didn't consider this an issue until the bits arrived from different suppliers (neither had both bits available!). Brackets didn't fit bearing carrier. A couple of hours later they did.

    I then discovered that with the brackets sitting on the carrier the caliper was 6mm too far out, so the carriers had to be milled so the bracket sat in the correct location.

    Then I noticed that the lugs didn't stick out enough, they were short by about 10mm. It dawns on me that these were designed for standard Sierras that use small rear discs! I have now ordered a pair of standard, non grooved, non drilled rear Sierra discs.

    However, the original Cossie discs were much bigger than the standard Elan front discs, so this forced change has helped in the brake balancing department as well as reducing unsprung weight by an extra 1.3Kg on top of the 1.6Kg the new carriers have saved.

    Next and final step is to get the wheel hubs machined. Two new holes to match the existing along with relieving of the underside to a depth of 1/3 the thickness.

    CV joints should be back this week from being lightened so that will complete the rear end and it can be put together.

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  16. fredkruger

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    i have come to the conclusion that if your car was human it would be anorexic.lmao
     
  17. old-git

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    And on a diet :). I have been trying to think of an analogy and came up with the power and speed of a male sprinter in the body of a female Rumanian gymnast :)
     
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  21. old-git

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    Front and rear anti roll bars have been ordered - approx 3 week turnround.

    As discussed in a separate thread, I have been looking to modify the upper front wishbones. Although they are adjustable, this can only be done by removing them from the car which will be a pain. I have therefore been looking at ways of modifying them so they can be adjusted insitu.

    Having looked into one way that was going to cost around £400 I have decided to use a female rod end and a left/right hand threaded bar. However, finding a bar has proved difficult so they haver got to be made. Although T9 has very kindly offered to talk to a friend's friend I have decided to make them myself. To that end I have ordered a left hand thread 1/2" UNF die (I have a right hand die) and a length of 1/" round bar in EN8.

    The top wishbone shows the existing setup. The bottom one shows a female rod end (just ordered them so this one is from my steering rack that has the fixing bolt built in - no good for the wishbone) The double threaded bar will join the two, allowing adjustment on the car. The rod ends will have to be shortened to allow locking nuts to be added plus some room for adjustment.

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  22. old-git

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    Did a few jobs this weekend:

    Fitted diff for the last time (hopefully)

    http://www.torquecars.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1656&stc=1&d=1336415720

    Completed proof of concept front top wishbone modification. A bonus of this mod is a a total weight reduction of 0.26Kg :)

    http://www.torquecars.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1657&stc=1&d=1336415842

    Made spacers to compensate for difference in width of original rubber bush and new rod end:

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  23. old-git

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    Made my first fuel pipe today. Cutting braided pipe is a bugger. Tried cutting with a fine toothed hacksaw blade, as recommended by the hose fitting manufacturer, but this ended up a sharp, spiky mess, even when cutting area taped up tight. Finally got a good cut using an angle grinder and fine cutting disc.

    Can't make any more pipes until tank and system fitted into boot, but at least it is a start and I now know that I can make them.

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  24. T9 man

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    I tried the fine toothed junior hacksaw route too OG and it was pants. I used a quality pair of tin snips in the end and they were much better.
     
  25. davalav

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    OG I have to see this project in the flesh. I cannot believe I have only just seen this!

    It's incredeble my friend, and I cannot wait to see it in action! I have a question...

    If it's for drag races and hill climbs, wouldn't AWD be a better bet, as you can get more traction and presumably better cornering for the climbs? I know weight is a must, but its food for thought! ;)
     
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